Nutzungsklasse 23/32 für Wohnräume mit hoher und gewerbliche Räume mit mittlerer Nutzung ✓ Classen Vinylboden Neo Refined Eiche bei OBI kaufen. wir überlegen auch den neo in unserem Haus zu verlegen. Allerdings sprechen die Erfahrungsberichte absolut nicht für diesen Boden. Hat denn der neu. Hallo, Hat jemand Erfahrungen mit Classen Designboden Neo ? Oder kann jemand gute Wasserfeste Vinyls empfehlen? Grüße. Gesamten.
Bauen mit Massivhaus MittelrheinErfahrungen habe ich nur mit und die sind grauenhaft. Ich kann dir aber trotzdem abraten, da im klein gedruckten zu finden ist, dass der Boden nicht mit. NEO by Classen ist extrem robust und wasserfest. Das sagt Classen selbst über seine Kollektion. Der Designboden Neo ist ein. wir überlegen auch den neo in unserem Haus zu verlegen. Allerdings sprechen die Erfahrungsberichte absolut nicht für diesen Boden. Hat denn der neu.
Neo 2.0 Erfahrungen Der Boden fürs gute Gewissen VideoTacx NEO 2 First Look: Unboxing, Tech Details, First Ride, Noise and More! Leider aber verströmt er nun doch hin und wieder einen dezenten Chemiegeruch. Wie zufrieden sind Sie mit Ihrem Boden? Kostenlos Hauskataloge bestellen. Tags Classen Produkttest. That seems to have Bwin Sh App a difference both up and down hills now. Es ging alles Problemlos und ohne RA. Was waiting for it for a long time. Der Bio-Werkstoffträger, der den Kern der Paneele bildet, ist chlorfrei und ohne Weichmacher produziert. Der Kompromiss lautet Fliese mit Holzdekor. Each time my Edge lost contact with the bike after minutes. These workarounds Yerry Mina becoming more kind of standard now in Neo 2.0 Erfahrungen wifes eyes — she may start to think that I am using Neo Ksi Vs Logan Live Stream as exuse to justify Ritter Sport Dankeschön upgrade of smart-trainer. Do you know when you are going to have neo bike availability? Yes the chain and cassette is there and it makes some noise. Passieren wird da sicherlich nichts. Golf Italian Open it assembled today and first ride. Aber Achtung, Spachtelmasse ist nicht gleich Spachtelmasse. Bin sowas von enttäuscht bei dem Preis Erg is quick. Notify me of followup comments via e-mail. NEO BY CLASSEN — ein umweltgerechter Designboden, ganz im Sinne der Zeit. mehr Informationen. Die alternative Wand- und Bodenfliese. NEO Vario: die neuartige Wand- und Bodenfliese zum Renovieren und Modernisieren von Fliesenflächen. 9/17/ · Thankfully, the NEO Bike is more akin to the NEO 2T; in fact, the NEO 2T is designed after the bike. But we’re getting ahead of ourselves. While Tacx may have shown their cards a bit early in the development cycle, the reality is that all companies have elongated development release timeframes. Hallo Eve, interessiert habe ich deine Erfahrungen zum Neo gelesen. Da wir Hunde haben suchen wir natürlich einen Boden der nicht kratzempfindlich ist. Schade, wir hätten gerne den Neo genommen, den gibt es auch bei uns in der CH (guter Preis)Jedoch so wird es .
Im frühen Sommer hat er angefangen sich überall zu wölben. Wir haben das ganze reklamiert und im August eine Nachbesserung seitens Classen erhalten. Gebracht hat das ganze nicht wirklich etwas, da der Bodenbelag sich so verformt hat, dass überall in der Wohnung Wellen zurück bleiben.
Auch dies haben wir reklamiert und nur den Rat bekommen, wir sollten das von Classen angebotene Pflegemittel nutzen. Auch dies wurde abgesehen davon, dass wir noch nie ein anderes Reinigungsmittel als das von classen verwendet haben für ca.
Hat aber leider auch nichts gebracht. Wenn man gegen das Licht schaut, sieht der Boden immer dreckig aus. Reinigung und Pflege bringt nichts.
Im Flur den ich nicht mehr weg bekomme, ebenso all die Schlieren. Ich bin wirklich stark verärgert und beabsichtige, erneut eine Reklamation einzuleiten.
Ich vermute deshalb, dass hier nur nachgeschnitten worden ist, und kein Tausch auf NEO 2. Beim Austausch, wird noch ein Beratungsgespräch geführt, zu eventuellen Verlege Änderungen Richtung etc..
Der Boden ist leider oft genug ob von Kunden oder Handwerker , nicht ganz richtig verlegt. Das betrifft nicht immer die Technik, sondern oft die Optik..
Hallo Sensei69! Danke für deine ausführliche Antwort. Die Nachbesserung wurde ganz offiziell von Classen durchgeführt! Wobei ich dazu sagen muss, das tatsächlich "nur " eine Nachbesserung durchgeführt wurde, jedoch kein Tausch.
Das ganze ist leider wie oben beschrieben abgelaufen und ärgert uns bis heute. Das Verfugen beispielsweise wurde uns verweigert, weil das angeblich den Boden am arbeiten hindern würde, die Reparatur beschädigter Elemente sei schlichtweg nicht möglich etc.
Im Sommer haben wir erneut reklamiert, da der Boden sich wieder ausdehnt und weitere Paneelen gebrochen sind. Nun wurde uns nach langem hin und her was ich aufgrund der Vorgeschichte und der Tatsache, dass wir ja nicht alleine mit dem Problem da stehen endlich ein neuer Termin genannt, zu welchem nun ein Austausch stattfinden soll.
Smaller hands will be fine, but larger hands may be struggling to find a good grip. I found the level and buttons to be perfectly fine for me.
They worked and the buttons do click slightly, which is nice. And the ability to see your gearing without having zwift or anything is a huge plus.
Some seem to find a sweet spot, others not so much. Just received a Neo 2 smart bike, as soon as I pedal immediatley goes up to extreme high watts cannot figure out what I am doing wrong, any advice would be appreciated as I cannot get anyone from Tacx to respond.
Not easily, from what I can tell without unwrapping the bars. They attach easily enough with four bolts underneath the cover, but the shifters themselves use a different type of attachment to the handlebars they use bolts rather than straps.
So you can easily rotate the handlebars, but not easily attach the shifters to a new handlebar. So moving the hoods is also not easy?!
Unless you move the handlebar? So I took the plunge! I bought the NeoBike. I have just emailed Tacx about the handlebar change.
Hello everybody I tried my new bike today. All in all, very good thing, quiet, supple, and very pleasant to drive.
However, I have found that it is far from accurate in ERG mode at low watts. Mostly around the 40Watt above the desired value.
For watts over w it was mostly accurate. Well, i did a workout in trainerroad with erg mode, and in the low watt parts with the target of watts i had approx watts all the time..
I have experienced some minor problems and have been in touch with Tacx support. I never had a problem with my Neo 2 in ERG. Generally speaking ERG is fine.
All my workouts were fine this past week, xcept one that I failed. I have never failed a workout before.
For my opinion there is something wrong on the erg mode in this bike. I seem to have the wattage all over the place and all trainings in erg mode both on zwift and trainerroad.
As well, my pedals develop a cluncking noise after rides, i need to uninstall them and install them again and noise is gone, Then after rides clunk clunk clunk comes back….
I have a feeling that TACX are reading along this thread. Please entlighten us that you are working on this…! Not exactly the same can be said about NeoBike….
All of them are going to have some teething issues, some…maybe a bit more substantial than others. Attached another video, i have tried trainer road and zwift in erg mode and in both cases wattage is all over the place!
Regarding the pedal clunking, i will try tomorrow some mounting grease on the threads and on the pods itself. From wahoo… The Kickr bike sold out on pre order for the first units.
At this time they have no updates other than they expect word in December on the next batch. That batch could start going out between January and March, most likely the latter.
If you dont have rubbing issues and dont need the climb feature, the Tacx is a really solid bike. Anyone know what gives?
Glad to help. What Zwift and Rouvy do is probably have a detailed model of terrain, wind resistance, etc. All of them are making it up, and apparently none of them are close to correct for you.
I have a problem with Road Feel. I do get it with my old Tacx Neo 1, not with the Smart Bike. Is there a solution for this problem?
I believe the issue here is something on the Zwift side not recognizing the Zwift Bike in certain protocols as a NEO series.
We also encourage you to share your thoughts and vote up support on our Community forums at link to forums. The forums are a great place to get more community support for an idea and attention from the dev team.
You may find many members have the same thoughts and ideas as you! Oh, that sucks. Road Feel was one of the Tacx USPs that worked for me — it may be a bit gimmicky, but it was a bit of fun that broke up a long ride.
Today I was able to recreate the overheating, resistance loss issue with the unit unplugged doing a TACX app heart-rate workout.
Garmin is still taking their sweet time and have not yet offered a replacement. Just need them to make a decision so I can go to the next step and engage with CT if necessary.
A Units that might actually have a legit issue a small number B The software is falsely shutting down the unit, which the next firmware update is set to fix.
The important part was that I was able to recreate it without Zwift, and without it plugged in. At first I thought it was just going to be a Zwift compatibility thing.
Either way I had to finish my episode of Mr. Robot on the couch. I suspect you meant legit hardware issue. I would say having a brand new product of this price shutting down unexpectedly is still a legit issue, even if they can solve it without paying return freight.
I am more interested to see if it is an early production issue or if the problem is going to scale as more get into the wild.
Same problem here. Not enough space on it. A pity! Maybe they will kick in another couple months of premium for the TACX app, I might be able to download a whole video by then.
The adjustment scale for the horizontal adjustment of the handlebar is missing. They probably skipped printing the scale on the slider in the manufacturing process.
Power control in ERG mode feels and looks pretty rough. Sometimes I am way under and the way above the target output.
And resistance drops down a second or so before the end of the interval. I am not sure why this is happening. Could be power control in ERG mode e.
Did anyone experience this as well? During sprints, the handlebar does not feel super sturdy and makes a creaking noise. I am wondering whether some of you encountered the same problems and know what to do.
Tighten those up and it should fix it. Pedaling should be buttery smooth otherwise. No drop off before end of segment. Yours sounds off. Have you updated firmware?
Yes, I saw that the handlebar clamp can be tightened. I will give this a try tonight and see if this fixes things.
The handlebar is the most minor issue though. I am most concerned about ERG-mode and the notchy feeling I sometimes get when pedalling.
I feels as if there is either some movement or as if there is no resistance for a split second. Very weird. About the notchy feeling. My unit is on his way back to Tacx for this reason.
They sending a new unit when this arrive. Ok, thanks for the info! Too bad that this seems to be real concern not something that can be software-fixed.
Did you contact Tacx Support to claim the exchange? I guess the best way to test would be to run the Tacx Utility app, change the Road Feel settings and see if it makes any difference.
FWIW — Tacx support just confirmed to me that the handlebar can be exchanged to a preferred one. I just had the same errror this morning.
Eagerly waiting since i am trying to decide on one of the two… Thanks lots!! A Solved most of them B Or have them solved on other units coming out of the factory C Or have them planned to be solved in upcoming firmware.
With fw 0. Sounds to me that some issues where the same — wattage offset — and has that been fixed for the NeoBike?
Hi everyone, I hope someone can help me out. I really want to get one but space in our apartment is kind of limited. I have some space that is about cm in length behind a door to store the bike when not in use.
Can someone that already has one at home check for me if that is the length when fully extended? Or rather when not extended at all? What is the shortest one could get the bike to?
I was wondering if you or anyone else here ever tried the kettler racer s? They seem to do all the right things real Campa shifters for one. In other words, the industry standards.
Somewhere around here someone either posted or linked to a measurements guide from Tacx. They will not pair to Zwift or anything alike — only KWT.
A shame since their build actually is good. Unfortunately the Kettler website is very sparse on exact technical information. In their forum you can still read about Zwift hacks.
Actually — though some years ago — I wrote with their devs. I believe they use BT to communicate with PC and this is a closed protocol. Like I mentioned earlier; they may have their own community with a lot of fans.
No one else has videos on the same quality level — period. And with a Tacx you can also ride everything else: Zwift, TrainerRoad what ever….
I got my bike on Friday. So far generally all is good. Anyone else got this problem? The feedback is very subtle at the end of the cassette and less going one way than the other.
Seems just about right to me. Thanks for the response though. Hi, has anyone with this bike been able to compare it to the Atom? Thanks — I guess I was looking for a bit more.
Sounds like a comparo is coming. And then the Tacx is so close in price to the Wahoo, I wonder the same about those.
Well, I was loving my Neo bike after two weeks of use until this morning when without warning it started making all manner of creaking and knocking noises from up front.
Still pedaled smoothly and all systems and flywheel resistance fine, but after talking with support, it has to go back in the box for exchange.
I have a neo 1 as well as the bike. Yeah I still have my Direto for now. Kind of amazed that they could have tested these for so long and so many problems are popping up.
Mine was really perfect and then not. Brand new bike. Got it assembled today and first ride. Tacx utility shows a thermal overheating.
Riding about watts during this period on a mostly flat track. Contacted Garmin and they are supposed to contact me to figure this out. Overall bike looks great, was easy to set up.
I didnt find the pedal inserts to be too much of an issue just have to make sure and match them up correctly.
Same here…. Turned the freewheel by hand and guess what: rattle rattle rattle! Imagine the look on my face. I am so dissapointed. I thought that getting mine a bit later than many others was equal to a lot of fixes made by Tacx.
Sadly this was not the case for me. But mann what a rollercoaster ride. All of a sudden KickrBike just moved a heck of a lot closer. Totally makes sense.
I even started doing some workouts after bike commuting home because it was so much more convenient. I still view this as the cost of being on the bleeding edge and figure there will be some teething pains before it all settles.
The quality of the ride will probably keep me on the bike even if it has to go back again I imagine.
Not for a price like this. Just work, like in fit and forget. No fuzz no nothing. Just work perfect everytime!
I do believe that Tacx eventually get there. But only time will tell when that happens. The ride quality is worth it to me.
Indeed the ride quality of my 2T is great too. Yes the chain and cassette is there and it makes some noise. But the ride feel is great — no doubt.
That one has a completely new power unit. Just saying…. Smooth as butter, quiet as a whisper and I actually love the fans.
I think this might go away once I put my ISM saddle on the bike from my current saddle and either way, not a game changer.
Also seeing my wattage output higher than programmed in Zwift in ERG mode much more steady at higher wattage but wondering if that is not a combination of me, the trainer, and the program.
I adjusted the tacx power averaging after my last ride to see if this changes anything. Anyway, from my perspective worth the money due to the convenience.
Shout out to Clever Training for being so good at what they do!! Have any UK bikes actually been delivered yet? I ordered through tredz.
I think my bike was one of only seven so they received so I guess all the retailers are getting them in small numbers at a time.
Got mine through Tredz too and have had it for nearly a week. Only one ride so far. Initial worrying rattle more like a high-hat being played went away with half an hour of riding.
So far so good. Tredz buyer too their second pre-order and have had mine a couple of weeks now with km on Zwift. Oh, and like lots of other people everyone?
Has anybody raised the road feel issue with zwift? Ray, is this something you have any gravitas with? All things considered, it feels like most of the problems are teething issues.
In a few months when comparing the tacx with the wahoo bike, I think the Tacx will be the better value proposition with the price difference.
I raised the Zwift issue again with Tacx, who are also raising it with Zwift. As for the shoot-out, next week, likely Tues or Weds.
I got the trainer recommendations guide done last night- so this is next. Is there a setting on the bike or within Zwift to enable the downhill inertia on the bike?
That seems to have made a difference both up and down hills now. They grabbed it back today after some mechanical issues I was having.
Hi, So I have just been told that delivery of my pre-ordered bike is delayed. Reason should be, that they Tacx are suppose to start to install new chip cadence etc in production.
Anybody heard anything similar? This thing is real nightmare and I am now selling my Neo 2 hoping I would finally get the Bike…. I did the same before with Neo to purchase Neo 2 later as workaroud.
Now it seems I will have to buy Neo 2T in the end. These workarounds are becoming more kind of standard now in my wifes eyes — she may start to think that I am using Neo Bike as exuse to justify annual upgrade of smart-trainer ;-.
Cheers Marek. Hi Ray, Have you maybe heard anything about the new chip set being used in newer models? I was not able to find anything like this anywahere on internet.
I read about issues with overheating, so one can think that this new chip could make sense, but bo one else seems to know about it. Was supposed to be shipped Nov 1st.
My SO is a bit annoyed that her 70w recovery intervals are currently bouncing around between 90w and w. You have highlighted one of the problems I have come up with from looking at the images.
Like you i have no Thigh gap. In fact im so bad sustain bikes my thighs lightly brush the Top tube of my road bikes. The question i have is.
Still looking forward to it turning. Other than a redesign of some parts there is now workaround for the rubbing issue. For me, the bike design is fine.
Same for my wife and daughter. I did find that if the seat is tilted a bit too far forward that it promotes inward leg movement. Keeping the seat level or slightly back keeps my legs from rotating in where they might touch.
If I think about it, I notice it. Just returned my second bike to the bike shop. The first unit returned to Tacx in the Netherlands.
They send me a new one a week later. Like some bolts and the seat rails. I had to wait 1,5 week to collect that stuff. After 2 weeks of riding I was still feeling some ticking in the crank area.
The first unit had this too. After a warm-up it disappeared. And then the rubbing. Every position on the bike which is comfortable for me gave me rubbing on the seat rails.
The communication with Tacx is horrible. The telephone is broken for a week now, no reply on email for 2 weeks, no action with a direct message on Facebook.
No more any Tacx product in my house. I returned mine too and got my money back. May I ask; are you from DK like I am? Sorry to hear.
For others, the tacx support very clearly states that all customer support is now handled by Garmin. No point in trying to call tacx. I suspect they are trying to figure out the bottom bracket issues.
Just returned my Tacx Neo Bike I got yesterday. It was making exactly the same noise you can hear in this YouTube video of a Tacx Neo link to google.
Same here. After 5 weeks a bad sounding noise: link to youtu. Does anyone know of any availability in Germany?
Do you know when you are going to have neo bike availability? My local distributor canceled my order after having me for almost a month waiting and without giving any explanation.
They seem to have bikes available at least for replacements of faulty units here in the US. Spain, thanks.
No QC or test fit before they sent it out. Update, front stem bracket of the replacement bike will not allow a handlebar bracket farther than shown before wedging tight.
Both new and old bars slide fine on to original bike that overheats. Hoping Garmin can tell me how to unhook the cable and switch stems so I can salvage this until they have an actual new bike to send me.
Looks like the rail on the front post was bent in shipping. Looks like I will get another replacement bike before long. The cable in the front post does not appear to be user serviceable so there is no way to just switch posts without opening the main chassis.
Hierfür mussten wir nicht mal Reinigungsmittel verwenden, lediglich Wasser. Auch hat sich speziell an der Oberfläche und an den Klickverbindungen nichts getan.
Der Boden ist nicht angegriffen worden, ist nicht aufgequollen und sieht nach wie vor vollkommen normal aus. Nach unseren fünf abgeschlossenen Tests die wir mit dem Classen Neo 2.
Stuhlrollen haben keine negativen Auswirkungen auf die Oberfläche und sogar Feuchtigkeit kann dem Neo 2. Lediglich solltet ihr auf Steinchen achten, die den Boden verkratzen könnten.
Für uns eignet sich der Classen Neo 2. Sono Pro von Classen zurückgreifen. Deine E-Mail-Adresse wird nicht veröffentlicht. Da wir den Neo Vario allerdings nicht führen, sollten Sie vielleicht zur Absicherung direkt mit Classen kontaktieren.
Dies kann nämlich selbst bei sehr formstabilen Bodenbelägen wie dem NEO 2. Also ich kann die Kommentierungen aus dem Netz leider nur bestätigen.
Habe bereits öfters Böden verlegt und bin daher mit den gängigen Vorbereitungen Dehnungsfuge, Aklimatisierung vor dem Verlegen etc.
Bereits nach einigen Tagen waren deutliche Gebrauchtspuren zu entdecken, sodass wir den Boden direkt wieder rausgenommen haben und einen neuen deutlich günstigeren Boden verlegt haben, der bis dato super hält.
Auch war der Kundenservice von Classen leider aus meiner Sicht eine Katastrophe. Ist der Bodenbelag Neo 2.
Wollen unser Wohnzimmer damit ausstatten. Besten Dank W. Die geringe Bauhöhe sorgt auch dafür, das Zimmertüren und Türzargen oftmals gar nicht oder nur wenig gekürzt werden müssen.
Bei unseren Tests zur Malheurfestigkeit haben nur Pfennigabsätze zu sichtbaren Spuren führen können. Das aber auch nur, wenn man sich auf dem Absatz dreht, normales Laufen hinterlässt keine Spuren.
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